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Previously on "Chance"...
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Nic thanked Pepper?
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Right after she broke her nose.
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My father hired new Pis to track me.
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It'll just be for a couple of days.
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Why don't you just talk to him,
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just get everything out on the table,
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even if it's only to establish terms?
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My son... the last time I saw him,
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he was just a little boy.
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- What happened?
- Well, gay is what happened.
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Winter's people reached out.
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I'm telling you, as a friend,
you need to back off.
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He wants to torment you,
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and you can't let him get away with it.
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We can't.
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Winter filed another complaint.
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I've lost my job.
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Mr. Winter has suffered a trauma.
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It's raised issues for him
that he wants to work through
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with therapy.
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Does he want that, or do you want it?
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He says he has to trust
the process, trust you,
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but I don't have to, and I don't.
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I hurt people.
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I hurt them so bad...
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that they died.
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I felt helpless.
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Then I found a way not to be.
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She woke back up...
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at one point.
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Regained consciousness.
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Mommy! Mommy!
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It's funny, she was, uh, pretty
lucid talking about...
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well, not funny,
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but it's curious, the kinds
of things people will say.
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She said that she was worried about
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a driver's test she had the next morning
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and asked me if I was there
to help her study.
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To tutor her.
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Her name was Catherine.
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And she made me feel better.
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That was the first one?
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First one you... you hurt?
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You killed?
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That was your coping mechanism.
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Yes.
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But it didn't last.
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No.
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Once you know how,
you want to feel better again.
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How many?
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How many have there been?
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How do you choose them?
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Your victims?
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Sins choose us...
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...according to our weaknesses.
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But there are people
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who shine with vulnerability,
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whether they know it or not.
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Their faces say,
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"I am afraid of you."
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Their faces tell you what
they expect you to do to them.
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They expect to be hurt.
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They invite it,
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because they expect it.
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And if I chose anything,
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it was because their weakness
spoke to mine.
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Were they all mothers?
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A child shines with vulnerability.
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A child who's been hurt
expects to be hurt again.
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Does that mean they deserve it?
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Or do they deserve to be protected?
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Cared for? Loved?
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Who told you this,
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about sin and weakness?
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Who said that to you?
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A very damaged woman
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who was carrying her own
terrible psychic pain
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she tried to give to you...
pass on to you.
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Before she tried to destroy you.
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I'm not dead.
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I'm lost, but I'm not dead.
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I'm not dead!
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Hm.
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Old school.
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But effective.
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How's this?
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How about now?
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Fear stops when you kill
the thing you're afraid of.
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Or it kills you.
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How many?
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He talked about how he kills
them and how he tracked them.
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He implied it was many,
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but he never actually said a number.
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He did name one, though... Catherine.
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I-I... I had him.
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He was right there with me.
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Let's just go for a drive.
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Maybe we just go for a drive.
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Yeah. I'll drive you
wherever you want to go.
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I don't feel right.
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Listen, I think you're
being very brave, Ryan.
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You've had to carry this
whole thing alone for so long.
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Give me a second.
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You know what I think
we should do right now?
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I'd like to bring you to the hospital.
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Get you admitted.
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You got further than I ever did,
than... than anyone could.
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But then to fucking lose him...
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Kitchen door open.
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Oh, no. No, no, no.
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What?
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She's here.
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Ryan, are you all right?
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I'm sorry, I... What's going on here?
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This... This doesn't
change anything, all right?
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I heard you. I want to help you.
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Help him? He's a wreck because of you.
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You can't go back on this now.
You know that.
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The only way out of this is through.
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Please come with me now.
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- Please?
- Come with you?
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Ryan, please!
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I don't know if
he actually wanted to stop.
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You know what people do
that don't want to stop?
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They keep fucking going.
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- He wants you to leave.
- He didn't say that.
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He doesn't need to.
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What?
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Maybe I should call 911.
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Go ahead. Let's get the police here.
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You're awfully confident.
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Wonder why that is.
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You're ready?
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Let's call them.
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I didn't get him to turn himself in,
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I didn't get him to admit anything
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that I could legally take to the police.
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I should've...
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My head was just fill... I wanted to...
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What? Get yourself arrested?
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Fuck that. You played it
the way you could.
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And you... you didn't blow it.
You got us a name... Catherine.
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I've never heard of
any unsolved Catherines.
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Maybe they never found her body.
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Or maybe she's one of the bodies
out in the Headlands, even.
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I'm gonna look into that.
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- Look into it how?
- Well, I mean, I'm...
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I'm gonna look into having
someone look into it for me.
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I've got this friend
Frank at the D. A.'s office
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who doesn't completely hate me yet...
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I c... I can ask him.
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Oh, and speaking of looking into things,
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that fucking Lyndsay,
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I looked into her way back when,
and nothing.
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Where is she from?
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Uh, Connecticut or some shit. Why?
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I don't know. Just grasping
at straws, I guess.
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Maybe Winter doesn't
have any involvement
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with Stevie Benjamin's death.
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Oh, well, this is... Christ.
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Maybe he just had a
morbid fascination with it,
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from growing up close by.
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Maybe the rock that D found in his house
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doesn't have the significance
we thought it did.
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Maybe since we're dreaming,
I'd like a pony.
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I know. I-I agree.
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I'm just saying, if we're not
dreaming, if we are right,
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then we still don't actually
know who that DNA belongs to.
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No, we don't, do we?
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So, Winter admitted that his...
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coping mechanism is killing.
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And he also admitted that
it's not working anymore.
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I don't even want to think about
how he came to that conclusion.
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I've got enough on
my conscience as it is.
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Right now, my focus has
to be to get him back.
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You know, when I was
sitting opposite him,
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he was rambling on about
dealing out death...
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...I thought about dealing it
right back at him.
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More than once.
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I don't know how you do it,
all those years.
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Sitting opposite killers,
encouraging them,
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getting them to elaborate without...
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Stabbing them in the fucking eye?
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Let me tell you something.
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You know how many times
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I pulled out my piece
in the line of duty?
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7... 26 years.
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You know how many times I've shot it?
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Once.
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You know how many people I've killed?
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None.
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If you're not acting in self-defense,
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or the active defense of someone else,
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then you're a fucking murderer.
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Ryan Winter is a murderer.
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And that's who he wants to be.
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I'm not gonna be like him.
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We have a deal.
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Ryan Winter in front
of the bar of justice,
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to bare all before the whole world.
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I'm gonna do this the right way.
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Not Ryan Winter's way.
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And your super-sized friend?
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I'm sure he's gonna be
asking the same question.
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So, you're gonna have
to tell him that we...
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we have a deal.
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His parole officer called
me, told me he'd been working
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in a 24-hour garage in Daly City
for about the last month.
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Called over and talked to the manager.
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And?
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And Pardo's not
the most popular guy there.
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So when some big bald guy
showed up recently
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and gave him a beatdown,
nobody was that surprised.
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Or sad.
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Broke a bunch of bones,
put him in the hospital.
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When he got out,
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went to live with his sister
in Castro Valley.
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So, uh, what's the deal?
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Who's this Pardo guy to you?
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Hinto.
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Mass attack.
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I need six guys.
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I want you to come at me, hard.
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I want you to really try to hurt me.
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And I'm gonna really try to hurt you.
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Ready?
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- I'm taking this dog.
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- No! Please. He's mine!
- You can't take care of it, man.
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You know that. This is an animal abuse.
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- Hey, come on, man.
- That's his dog.
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Yeah, well, he can't help himself.
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- How's he gonna help the dog?
- No, please!
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Put your phones away.
It deserves to be protected.
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- It deserves a home!
- Hey! You're hurting him!
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- Hey, watch it.
- No!
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Get their plates.
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Ohh!
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Who does that?
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Hey.
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Dad's not here.
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I know.
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Futon's all yours again.
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- Hey, you okay?
- Yep.
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- You get in a fight?
- Nope.
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What are you working on?
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This morning, I saw this rich couple
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steal a homeless guy's dog.
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At least they looked
like they were rich.
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So mean and shitty.
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They just yanked it right out
of his arms and drove away.
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We all just stood there watching.
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Or even worse, filming it.
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How fucked up is that?
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- Pretty fucked up.
- Yeah.
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So, anyway, I'm trying to find them
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through the gross magic of social media.
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- The rich hipster couple.
- To do what?
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I don't know. Talk to them.
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Say if they let me take the dog back,
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I'll keep an eye on it
if they're worried,
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make sure it gets
its shots and whatever.
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That way, everyone
can get what they want.
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These rich people
you're talking about...
266
00:15:34,294 --> 00:15:36,175
they have what they want.
267
00:15:36,176 --> 00:15:38,218
They don't care about you.
268
00:15:39,740 --> 00:15:42,141
Before you even open your mouth,
269
00:15:42,142 --> 00:15:44,024
you'll be wasting their time.
270
00:15:45,626 --> 00:15:47,307
You can plan shit out in your head.
271
00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:50,670
Everything you want to do and say...
272
00:15:50,671 --> 00:15:53,913
everything you think
the other guy might do or say.
273
00:15:53,914 --> 00:15:55,995
But when you get to it,
274
00:15:55,996 --> 00:15:58,024
nothing is like you planned.
275
00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:00,159
Ever.
276
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,778
Okay.
277
00:16:02,683 --> 00:16:05,605
If I left anything here that
you find, just throw it away.
278
00:16:16,657 --> 00:16:19,058
Hey, I got it. I got it. Thanks.
279
00:16:19,059 --> 00:16:20,860
Knock, knock.
280
00:16:20,861 --> 00:16:22,766
- Kev.
- Frank.
281
00:16:22,767 --> 00:16:23,863
My man.
282
00:16:23,864 --> 00:16:25,545
That thing you're working on pan out?
283
00:16:25,546 --> 00:16:27,306
- What's up?
- Yeah. No.
284
00:16:27,307 --> 00:16:29,789
We had a little setback there,
but we're still on track.
285
00:16:29,790 --> 00:16:31,226
- Uh-huh.
- But, in the meantime,
286
00:16:31,251 --> 00:16:32,552
I could use a favor.
287
00:16:32,553 --> 00:16:33,993
Well, a couple of them, actually.
288
00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:35,686
Jesus wept.
289
00:16:36,196 --> 00:16:39,398
- Katherine Atkins.
- Mm. Mother of two.
290
00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:42,882
And the DOJ website
reported her missing in 2005
291
00:16:42,883 --> 00:16:44,484
in, uh, Alameda County.
292
00:16:44,485 --> 00:16:47,807
So I called Alameda PD
and got the run-around.
293
00:16:47,808 --> 00:16:50,369
And long story short, they found a body,
294
00:16:50,370 --> 00:16:52,171
but they won't tell me shit.
295
00:16:52,172 --> 00:16:53,813
Well, like, what do you want to know?
296
00:16:53,814 --> 00:16:56,015
Well, for starters,
I'd like to know how she died.
297
00:16:56,016 --> 00:17:00,300
And also, whether there were,
uh, rocks in her throat.
298
00:17:02,543 --> 00:17:06,746
Okay. I'm not even... Yeah,
I can make a call. Okay.
299
00:17:06,747 --> 00:17:08,508
What else?
300
00:17:08,509 --> 00:17:10,149
You, uh, know somebody
301
00:17:10,150 --> 00:17:11,551
in the State's Attorney's office
302
00:17:11,552 --> 00:17:13,673
in Bridgeport, right?
303
00:17:13,674 --> 00:17:15,034
In Bridgeport?
304
00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:16,476
You're talking Bridgeport, Connecticut?
305
00:17:16,477 --> 00:17:18,037
- Yes.
- Jesus Christ, buddy.
306
00:17:18,038 --> 00:17:21,240
You are... You are
all over the map today.
307
00:17:21,241 --> 00:17:23,042
Yes, I do. Why?
308
00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:25,324
Great. Can you ask them
to run that sheet?
309
00:17:25,325 --> 00:17:27,647
I'm looking for any
expunged criminal records.
310
00:17:27,648 --> 00:17:29,809
I mean, I...
Look, I ran her a few years ago,
311
00:17:29,810 --> 00:17:32,076
but I only did it in California, so...
312
00:17:32,573 --> 00:17:34,036
Who's Lyndsay Hamilton?
313
00:17:34,775 --> 00:17:37,416
Well, she's, uh, Winter's assistant.
314
00:17:37,417 --> 00:17:38,818
- Wint... Come on.
- Yeah, I know.
315
00:17:38,819 --> 00:17:40,780
- Kevin, why?
- I know, but listen to me.
316
00:17:40,781 --> 00:17:42,942
I'm just thinking maybe Winter
had some help along the way.
317
00:17:42,943 --> 00:17:44,944
- So let's just leave it at that.
- No, but that's just it.
318
00:17:44,945 --> 00:17:49,069
Help with what? And... based on what?
319
00:17:52,793 --> 00:17:54,474
Kevin, not for nothing,
320
00:17:54,475 --> 00:17:58,678
but being your friend is like
having a goddamn colonoscopy.
321
00:17:59,228 --> 00:18:00,720
Please, Frank?
322
00:18:01,397 --> 00:18:03,203
I need your help. Please.
323
00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:08,529
Okay.
324
00:18:09,610 --> 00:18:11,050
Thank you.
325
00:18:11,051 --> 00:18:12,291
Appreciate it.
326
00:18:12,292 --> 00:18:13,733
- Now leave me alone?
- Yes.
327
00:18:13,734 --> 00:18:16,656
- Please?
- For today, I will.
328
00:18:16,657 --> 00:18:18,939
Thanks again, Frank.
329
00:18:22,623 --> 00:18:24,824
Hi. This is Ryan. Leave a message.
330
00:18:26,266 --> 00:18:29,468
Ryan, it's Eldon Chance here again.
331
00:18:29,469 --> 00:18:31,511
Please call me.
332
00:18:31,512 --> 00:18:33,673
Please reach out, okay?
333
00:18:33,674 --> 00:18:35,755
I-I-I need to know you're all right.
334
00:18:35,756 --> 00:18:38,559
I'm here to help you.
I want to help you.
335
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,062
Okay.
336
00:18:53,814 --> 00:18:54,934
Ryan?
337
00:18:54,935 --> 00:18:57,536
Stop calling him!
338
00:18:58,018 --> 00:19:02,421
Lyndsay, Mr. Winter is
in a fragile state right now.
339
00:19:02,422 --> 00:19:04,343
He needs constant medical supervision.
340
00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:07,587
It's possible he might hurt
himself or someone else.
341
00:19:07,588 --> 00:19:10,429
I will lodge a formal complaint
with the state medical board.
342
00:19:10,430 --> 00:19:11,911
I get it. You care about him.
343
00:19:11,912 --> 00:19:14,033
So do I. We're on the same side here.
344
00:19:14,034 --> 00:19:16,556
You will lose your license,
face charges.
345
00:19:16,557 --> 00:19:17,877
Should I keep going?
346
00:19:17,878 --> 00:19:20,239
Listen, if anything happens to him,
347
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,801
you could be held responsible.
348
00:19:21,802 --> 00:19:24,844
I am trying my best
to be civil, Dr. Chance.
349
00:19:24,845 --> 00:19:28,025
You don't want to see
what happens when I stop.
350
00:19:29,009 --> 00:19:31,279
Or maybe I do, Lyndsay.
351
00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:34,734
Maybe that way, I'll find out
what it is you're hiding.
352
00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:50,911
- Hey.
- Hey.
353
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,081
So, full disclosure?
354
00:20:03,102 --> 00:20:05,566
That could mean almost anything,
but sure.
355
00:20:07,287 --> 00:20:08,688
I found Wade Pardo.
356
00:20:10,067 --> 00:20:11,450
Okay?
357
00:20:11,451 --> 00:20:13,252
I know you said you thought
he wouldn't come back here,
358
00:20:13,253 --> 00:20:14,613
but still.
359
00:20:15,335 --> 00:20:18,698
I asked a cop friend of mine
to try and track him down.
360
00:20:18,699 --> 00:20:20,541
In case.
361
00:20:22,382 --> 00:20:23,784
And what'd you find out?
362
00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:28,748
He was working in Daly City,
at a garage,
363
00:20:28,749 --> 00:20:31,430
and then somebody showed up
and threw him a beatdown.
364
00:20:31,431 --> 00:20:32,952
Broke a lot of bones.
365
00:20:32,953 --> 00:20:35,343
Not too long after his run-in with you.
366
00:20:35,916 --> 00:20:38,839
Same thing happened to
Matty Willis a couple weeks ago.
367
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,761
He's the guy who broke into
368
00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:43,563
Clara Santiago's apartment
and raped her.
369
00:20:43,564 --> 00:20:45,124
I think that the charge was dropped
370
00:20:45,125 --> 00:20:47,229
on an illegal search issue.
371
00:20:48,088 --> 00:20:49,569
But Clara came and told me that...
372
00:20:49,570 --> 00:20:52,451
that Matty'd been robbed,
he'd been stabbed.
373
00:20:52,452 --> 00:20:55,855
He survived, but one of the
nerves in his arm was severed.
374
00:20:55,856 --> 00:20:58,257
Really? I didn't hear about that.
375
00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:01,501
Well, honestly, if we followed up
376
00:21:01,502 --> 00:21:03,703
on every person
who put a patient in here,
377
00:21:03,704 --> 00:21:05,344
I think we'd find the percentage of them
378
00:21:05,345 --> 00:21:07,026
volunteering in soup kitchens
379
00:21:07,027 --> 00:21:09,870
and helping old ladies across
the street would be pretty low.
380
00:21:11,151 --> 00:21:14,131
Those who live by the sword,
die by the sword, I guess.
381
00:21:14,635 --> 00:21:16,836
Or get maimed by the sword.
382
00:21:16,837 --> 00:21:19,158
And our job is to deal with the fallout.
383
00:21:19,637 --> 00:21:22,683
And we've got enough fallout
to last the rest of our lives.
384
00:21:24,645 --> 00:21:27,687
Speaking of which...
385
00:21:27,688 --> 00:21:30,130
Didn't you come in to get coffee?
386
00:21:31,852 --> 00:21:33,776
Yeah, I did.
387
00:21:34,414 --> 00:21:35,935
Obviously I need it.
388
00:21:48,108 --> 00:21:50,750
- Come on.
- How's he gonna help the dog?
389
00:21:50,751 --> 00:21:52,431
- Put your phones away.
- What gives you the right?
390
00:21:52,432 --> 00:21:56,075
You're hurting him!
391
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,960
Crazy messed up. Get the plates.
392
00:22:00,961 --> 00:22:03,803
Ohh.
393
00:22:06,647 --> 00:22:08,167
What the hell?
394
00:22:08,168 --> 00:22:09,448
No, no!
395
00:22:09,449 --> 00:22:11,130
Go, go, go!
396
00:22:11,131 --> 00:22:12,572
Stop it!
397
00:22:12,573 --> 00:22:14,654
Crazy messed up. Get the plates.
398
00:23:03,824 --> 00:23:05,945
Oh, that's closed now.
399
00:23:05,946 --> 00:23:08,107
It was up on 18th.
400
00:23:08,108 --> 00:23:10,039
It's the only place I could go.
401
00:23:10,871 --> 00:23:13,232
Come on, there weren't
any other gay bars
402
00:23:13,233 --> 00:23:15,034
in the Castro in the '70s?
403
00:23:15,035 --> 00:23:18,037
The only place a black man could go. Ah.
404
00:23:18,038 --> 00:23:19,381
Besides Oakland.
405
00:23:20,521 --> 00:23:23,724
Ah. So what happened?
406
00:23:26,046 --> 00:23:28,599
I became...
407
00:23:29,209 --> 00:23:31,571
Incautious.
408
00:23:31,572 --> 00:23:33,012
If once a week was fine,
409
00:23:33,013 --> 00:23:35,380
four times a week was that much better.
410
00:23:35,381 --> 00:23:39,178
- Mm-hmm.
- I told myself, before I told Olivia,
411
00:23:39,179 --> 00:23:41,861
I was trying to find what exactly it was
412
00:23:41,862 --> 00:23:43,903
that I was telling her.
413
00:23:43,904 --> 00:23:47,266
And while I was finding out,
she found me out.
414
00:23:47,267 --> 00:23:48,988
Oh.
415
00:23:48,989 --> 00:23:52,623
Took Alvin to her mother's
and followed me to the Pendulum.
416
00:23:53,958 --> 00:23:55,715
Oh, shit.
417
00:23:55,716 --> 00:23:58,718
It was a betrayal, no question.
418
00:23:58,719 --> 00:24:01,280
Made worse by having been discovered,
419
00:24:01,281 --> 00:24:03,123
rather than confessed.
420
00:24:05,245 --> 00:24:08,127
So, you... you never thought
about just giving it up?
421
00:24:08,128 --> 00:24:10,449
I mean, pretending
that it never happened
422
00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,309
and saying it was a mistake?
423
00:24:12,693 --> 00:24:16,255
You can't close your eyes
once they've been opened.
424
00:24:20,741 --> 00:24:22,778
No, you can't.
425
00:24:23,984 --> 00:24:27,306
You know, you may not be
a married man with a child,
426
00:24:27,307 --> 00:24:29,148
but still.
427
00:24:29,149 --> 00:24:31,070
People are going to
look at you differently,
428
00:24:31,071 --> 00:24:32,832
and that's fine.
429
00:24:32,833 --> 00:24:36,195
If you are strong in yourself.
430
00:24:36,196 --> 00:24:39,158
And, Kevin, I see that you are.
431
00:24:39,159 --> 00:24:41,360
You are strong.
432
00:24:41,361 --> 00:24:43,674
You are ready.
433
00:24:44,324 --> 00:24:46,927
You are a treasure in a jar of clay.
434
00:24:49,009 --> 00:24:50,730
Yeah?
435
00:24:50,731 --> 00:24:52,451
Yes, indeed.
436
00:24:52,452 --> 00:24:56,375
Pressed on all sides, but not crushed.
437
00:24:56,376 --> 00:24:59,231
Perplexed, but not in despair.
438
00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:03,319
Persecuted, but never forsaken.
439
00:25:03,784 --> 00:25:07,386
Struck down, but never destroyed.
440
00:25:07,387 --> 00:25:09,028
Now...
441
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:10,711
have another cup of tea.
442
00:25:14,314 --> 00:25:15,497
Yeah.
443
00:25:16,236 --> 00:25:17,837
Ahh.
444
00:25:17,838 --> 00:25:19,119
Mm-hmm.
445
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,400
Yeah, you need to stretch more.
446
00:25:21,401 --> 00:25:23,162
I don't know why guys don't stretch.
447
00:26:41,321 --> 00:26:44,003
Oh, yeah!
448
00:26:44,004 --> 00:26:45,565
Oh, my God!
449
00:26:45,566 --> 00:26:48,087
Where'd you come from, huh? Huh? Huh?
450
00:26:54,374 --> 00:26:57,898
Oh, I'm so glad to have you back.
451
00:26:58,819 --> 00:27:00,980
So, you're here again?
452
00:27:00,981 --> 00:27:02,771
Safe to come back now?
453
00:27:03,824 --> 00:27:05,185
All good, brother.
454
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:10,309
Say it.
455
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:11,671
Your face.
456
00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:13,152
I needed to work something out.
457
00:27:13,407 --> 00:27:15,394
Something that didn't feel finished.
458
00:27:15,576 --> 00:27:17,036
So I did.
459
00:27:17,037 --> 00:27:18,758
And it does.
460
00:27:19,204 --> 00:27:22,081
Winter. You get back with him yet?
461
00:27:22,082 --> 00:27:24,844
No, not yet.
It's not for want of trying.
462
00:27:24,845 --> 00:27:27,326
I drove by his place,
I left a ton of messages.
463
00:27:27,327 --> 00:27:29,489
Why is he stonewalling now?
464
00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:31,611
Oh, it's Lyndsay who's doing
the stonewalling.
465
00:27:31,612 --> 00:27:33,052
I don't know what Winter's doing.
466
00:27:33,053 --> 00:27:35,134
Fucking Eva Braun.
467
00:27:35,135 --> 00:27:37,617
I hope Hynes can dig
something up on her.
468
00:27:37,618 --> 00:27:39,378
Yeah, so do I,
469
00:27:39,379 --> 00:27:41,020
but that doesn't help me right now.
470
00:27:41,021 --> 00:27:44,183
Right now the problem is that
she's denying me access.
471
00:27:44,646 --> 00:27:46,866
Every hour that passes is an hour lost.
472
00:27:46,867 --> 00:27:48,427
Winter could change his story,
473
00:27:48,428 --> 00:27:51,311
change his mind, he can end the game.
474
00:27:54,675 --> 00:27:56,366
Unless...
475
00:27:58,999 --> 00:28:02,442
Unless we can separate
the sheep from the sheepdog.
476
00:28:05,285 --> 00:28:06,807
Awesome.
477
00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:13,813
There is the instance where a monk,
478
00:28:13,814 --> 00:28:16,135
having gone into the wilderness,
479
00:28:16,136 --> 00:28:19,378
sits down under the shade of a tree,
480
00:28:19,379 --> 00:28:22,893
setting mindfulness to the fore.
481
00:28:24,464 --> 00:28:26,145
Always mindful,
482
00:28:26,146 --> 00:28:28,440
he breathes in.
483
00:28:29,149 --> 00:28:30,870
Always mindful,
484
00:28:30,871 --> 00:28:32,993
he breathes out.
485
00:28:35,155 --> 00:28:39,679
Always mindful...
486
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,160
Yes?
487
00:28:41,161 --> 00:28:42,663
Hey, Lyndsay.
488
00:28:43,724 --> 00:28:45,444
Who is this?
489
00:28:45,445 --> 00:28:48,007
Well, you filed the complaint
that got me fired...
490
00:28:48,008 --> 00:28:50,009
seems like you should know who I am.
491
00:28:50,010 --> 00:28:52,451
You got yourself fired.
492
00:28:52,452 --> 00:28:56,135
Now, it seems you want to get
yourself arrested, as well.
493
00:28:56,136 --> 00:28:57,636
Crazy, right?
494
00:28:58,058 --> 00:28:59,859
What the fuck am I thinking?
495
00:28:59,860 --> 00:29:02,742
- Don't you ever wonder?
- Don't I ever wonder what?
496
00:29:02,743 --> 00:29:04,504
What I'm thinking.
497
00:29:04,505 --> 00:29:06,586
Why I would throw away a 30-year career
498
00:29:06,587 --> 00:29:10,349
and let my life go
to shit over your boss?
499
00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:13,112
Or what I might know that you don't?
500
00:29:13,113 --> 00:29:17,156
Come meet me right now and I'll
tell you what you don't know.
501
00:29:17,157 --> 00:29:19,318
I'll even let you pick the place.
502
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:22,642
Public place if it makes you feel safer.
503
00:29:22,643 --> 00:29:24,363
But pick it right now.
504
00:29:24,364 --> 00:29:26,486
Before I change my mind.
505
00:29:26,487 --> 00:29:29,169
Or you'll never get the answers
you've always wanted.
506
00:29:32,853 --> 00:29:34,974
He's in his room. Mr. Winter.
507
00:29:34,975 --> 00:29:37,737
I have to run out,
but I'll be back soon.
508
00:29:37,738 --> 00:29:40,379
I'm going to end this insanity
once and for all.
509
00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:43,462
Just call me if you need me,
but don't leave.
510
00:29:43,463 --> 00:29:45,906
And don't let anyone in.
511
00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:52,431
Easiest non-cheese mac and cheese...
512
00:29:52,432 --> 00:29:54,994
Nic, are you in there?
513
00:29:54,995 --> 00:29:57,865
Nicole, open the door!
514
00:29:57,866 --> 00:30:00,119
...packed full of nutrients, proteins...
515
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,361
Nic, open the door!
516
00:30:04,645 --> 00:30:05,925
Hey.
517
00:30:05,926 --> 00:30:07,366
Why didn't you answer your phone?
518
00:30:07,367 --> 00:30:09,048
I-I don't know.
It's charging in the kitchen.
519
00:30:09,049 --> 00:30:10,690
Why? What's wrong?
520
00:30:10,691 --> 00:30:12,492
Don't worry. It's gonna be fine.
521
00:30:12,493 --> 00:30:15,014
I hired a lawyer and he's gonna
meet us down there, okay?
522
00:30:15,015 --> 00:30:16,536
We will figure this out. Don't worry.
523
00:30:16,537 --> 00:30:18,338
Mom, don't worry about what?
524
00:30:21,902 --> 00:30:24,023
M-Mom, they stole his dog!
525
00:30:24,024 --> 00:30:25,705
I-I just took it back to him.
I never did...
526
00:30:25,706 --> 00:30:27,507
- I promise! Nic, what are you saying?
- Stop talking.
527
00:30:27,508 --> 00:30:30,189
Nicole Chance, you're under
arrest for aggravated assault.
528
00:30:30,190 --> 00:30:32,439
Please place your hands
behind your back.
529
00:30:33,554 --> 00:30:35,595
Pepper's parents are pressing charges.
530
00:30:35,596 --> 00:30:38,277
It's gonna be fine. I-I promise.
531
00:30:38,278 --> 00:30:40,240
We'll figure this out.
532
00:31:04,264 --> 00:31:07,066
Ramona Marquez, 34, one son...
533
00:31:07,067 --> 00:31:08,669
he cut her throat.
534
00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:14,273
Ivy Maitland, 31.
535
00:31:14,274 --> 00:31:15,755
She had a son.
536
00:31:16,269 --> 00:31:18,071
He cut her throat.
537
00:31:19,399 --> 00:31:23,923
And Josefa Pefaur, 30.
538
00:31:23,924 --> 00:31:26,966
Twin girls and a baby on the way.
539
00:31:26,967 --> 00:31:29,128
Winter met her in group therapy,
540
00:31:29,129 --> 00:31:31,731
at the Victims of Violent Crime Unit.
541
00:31:31,732 --> 00:31:32,973
Cut her throat.
542
00:31:36,456 --> 00:31:39,739
Katherine, Travis, Su Yee,
543
00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:44,303
Leigh Ann, Ramona, Ivy, and Josefa.
544
00:31:44,304 --> 00:31:46,586
That's as many as I'm sure of.
545
00:31:46,587 --> 00:31:49,099
And I don't believe that
that's all there are.
546
00:31:50,110 --> 00:31:53,633
So... these are things
you think I need to hear?
547
00:31:53,634 --> 00:31:54,771
No.
548
00:31:55,476 --> 00:31:58,318
Those are the things
that everyone needs to hear.
549
00:32:01,522 --> 00:32:03,442
When Winter was 4 years old,
550
00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:05,741
his name was Matthew Debbs.
551
00:32:07,047 --> 00:32:10,290
This is a picture of his mother, Amy.
552
00:32:12,292 --> 00:32:14,293
When Amy was 33 years old,
553
00:32:14,294 --> 00:32:17,753
she tried to kill herself
by cutting her own throat.
554
00:32:18,631 --> 00:32:20,033
But it didn't work.
555
00:32:21,502 --> 00:32:25,264
So she tried to kill Matthew instead.
556
00:32:25,265 --> 00:32:26,706
Now, I'm not sure,
557
00:32:26,707 --> 00:32:29,989
but it's probably
why he does what he does.
558
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:32,552
I mean, it seems pretty likely.
559
00:32:32,553 --> 00:32:34,714
But still, if I could,
560
00:32:34,715 --> 00:32:36,688
I'd talk to him about it.
561
00:32:37,317 --> 00:32:40,760
I mean, wouldn't you...
like to talk to him about it?
562
00:32:40,761 --> 00:32:43,363
Or... do you not need to?
563
00:32:46,046 --> 00:32:48,208
Do you know everything, Lyndsay?
564
00:32:52,052 --> 00:32:53,213
I'm done.
565
00:32:54,334 --> 00:32:55,615
Well, I'm not.
566
00:32:56,009 --> 00:32:58,131
When I am, you'll know.
567
00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:02,542
And how are the factors for awakening
568
00:33:02,543 --> 00:33:04,984
developed and pursued
569
00:33:04,985 --> 00:33:07,106
so as to bring clear knowing
570
00:33:07,107 --> 00:33:10,511
and release to their culmination?
571
00:33:12,753 --> 00:33:15,555
A monk develops mindfulness
572
00:33:15,556 --> 00:33:18,271
as a factor for awakening.
573
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:24,283
Persistence as a factor for awakening.
574
00:33:24,284 --> 00:33:29,969
Concentration as a factor for awakening.
575
00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:35,134
Serenity as a factor for awakening.
576
00:33:35,135 --> 00:33:38,778
Dependent on seclusion.
577
00:33:38,779 --> 00:33:41,581
Dependent on dispassion.
578
00:33:41,582 --> 00:33:44,544
Dependent on closure.
579
00:33:44,545 --> 00:33:48,548
Resulting in surrender.
580
00:34:12,332 --> 00:34:14,775
Lyndsay?
581
00:34:18,018 --> 00:34:19,619
Lyndsay?!
582
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:21,061
It's okay, Ryan.
583
00:34:22,422 --> 00:34:23,962
I'm here.
584
00:34:24,665 --> 00:34:26,547
You're here with me.
585
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:40,478
Um...
586
00:34:41,161 --> 00:34:43,403
Where the fuck is here?
587
00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,446
This is a safe place.
588
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:50,770
I brought you here because
I thought it was best.
589
00:34:50,771 --> 00:34:54,826
A quiet place for us to
finish what you started.
590
00:34:55,415 --> 00:34:56,976
You're not a prisoner.
591
00:34:56,977 --> 00:34:58,778
Ryan, you're not a hostage.
592
00:34:58,779 --> 00:35:00,900
You want to call someone,
you can call Lyndsay
593
00:35:00,901 --> 00:35:02,663
or you could call
the police if you want.
594
00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:12,792
You can tell them that
you were kidnapped,
595
00:35:12,793 --> 00:35:14,594
brought here against your will.
596
00:35:14,595 --> 00:35:16,477
It's up to you.
597
00:35:19,517 --> 00:35:21,120
I told you things.
598
00:35:21,121 --> 00:35:22,883
And I know you're not finished.
599
00:35:25,886 --> 00:35:27,807
No, I can't. I can't.
600
00:35:27,808 --> 00:35:29,408
Yeah, you can.
601
00:35:29,409 --> 00:35:31,571
I'm not going to prison.
602
00:35:31,572 --> 00:35:33,093
I'm not asking you to.
603
00:35:37,618 --> 00:35:39,620
I've seen this before, Ryan.
604
00:35:41,622 --> 00:35:44,624
I had a patient. A woman.
605
00:35:44,625 --> 00:35:46,628
She went through this, too.
606
00:35:47,508 --> 00:35:49,468
She and I did. Together.
607
00:35:49,469 --> 00:35:51,711
Who was she?
608
00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:53,674
What was wrong with her?
609
00:35:57,277 --> 00:35:59,479
She hurt people.
610
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,800
Like you did.
611
00:36:00,801 --> 00:36:02,059
Like you do.
612
00:36:03,003 --> 00:36:05,444
She also had a history of abuse,
613
00:36:05,445 --> 00:36:07,527
going back to when she was a child.
614
00:36:07,528 --> 00:36:12,171
She was beset by feelings
of guilt and rage, remorse...
615
00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:14,406
Retreating into dissociation.
616
00:36:14,895 --> 00:36:17,367
She also told me that
she couldn't face prison.
617
00:36:18,458 --> 00:36:19,995
She was too afraid.
618
00:36:21,622 --> 00:36:23,864
But, as afraid as she was...
619
00:36:26,146 --> 00:36:28,003
she trusted me more.
620
00:36:29,469 --> 00:36:31,923
She admitted what she'd done.
621
00:36:32,863 --> 00:36:33,993
In court.
622
00:36:34,301 --> 00:36:35,955
There was a plea of diminished capacity,
623
00:36:35,956 --> 00:36:37,997
and I testified on her behalf.
624
00:36:37,998 --> 00:36:39,879
She was committed to
a psychiatric hospital.
625
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,561
Not a prison.
626
00:36:41,562 --> 00:36:45,004
She's receiving care
and she's rebuilding her life.
627
00:36:45,005 --> 00:36:47,731
And I am helping her do that.
628
00:36:49,329 --> 00:36:52,110
It's slow, but it is happening.
629
00:36:53,814 --> 00:36:56,216
There's a path here, Ryan.
630
00:36:59,019 --> 00:37:01,244
A path to becoming whole.
631
00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,263
And I think you're brave enough
to take those first steps.
632
00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:05,745
And I'll walk it with you.
633
00:37:05,746 --> 00:37:08,501
How do I know any of this is...
634
00:37:09,830 --> 00:37:12,912
If it could really all work out
for me the way you say?
635
00:37:12,913 --> 00:37:16,195
What you can know is what
the future will look like
636
00:37:16,196 --> 00:37:18,011
if you don't change it.
637
00:37:21,882 --> 00:37:24,243
It's going to be like the past.
638
00:37:24,244 --> 00:37:26,285
No. No. I'm not...
639
00:37:26,286 --> 00:37:28,968
I mean, I-I can't just leave my life!
640
00:37:28,969 --> 00:37:31,130
I mean, I have to put
everything in order first.
641
00:37:31,131 --> 00:37:32,411
I can't just walk away!
642
00:37:32,412 --> 00:37:34,333
Yeah, you can.
643
00:37:34,334 --> 00:37:36,096
You can and you have to.
644
00:37:37,337 --> 00:37:39,379
You deserve to.
645
00:37:41,461 --> 00:37:46,425
I asked you once
how someone could consent
646
00:37:46,426 --> 00:37:47,867
to let you in their head
647
00:37:47,868 --> 00:37:50,230
without knowing what
you would find there.
648
00:37:53,233 --> 00:37:55,355
But I knew what you would find.
649
00:37:57,117 --> 00:37:59,318
Yeah, you did.
650
00:37:59,319 --> 00:38:01,041
But you said yes anyway.
651
00:38:03,764 --> 00:38:06,766
You trusted me to
bring you to this moment.
652
00:38:14,054 --> 00:38:18,297
Nothing worthwhile is ever
done through thinking alone.
653
00:38:18,298 --> 00:38:20,540
At some point, you have to act.
654
00:38:27,588 --> 00:38:29,549
What will it look like?
655
00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:30,990
Where do I go?
656
00:38:31,376 --> 00:38:32,792
What do I do?
657
00:38:32,793 --> 00:38:35,875
You just walk into a police station,
658
00:38:35,876 --> 00:38:37,797
any police station.
659
00:38:37,798 --> 00:38:40,079
- With you?
- No. I can't.
660
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,002
They would think I'd coerced you.
661
00:38:43,003 --> 00:38:44,644
They'd be thinking that
down the line somewhere,
662
00:38:44,645 --> 00:38:48,207
some defense lawyer's gonna
use my presence against them.
663
00:38:48,208 --> 00:38:50,130
But you'll come after? When it's done?
664
00:38:52,493 --> 00:38:53,898
When it's done.
665
00:38:59,459 --> 00:39:00,820
Well then...
666
00:39:03,303 --> 00:39:05,345
I guess it's time to act.
667
00:39:08,589 --> 00:39:10,310
Yeah.
668
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,041
I'll see you on the path.
669
00:39:38,739 --> 00:39:39,979
Hey.
670
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,902
I think this is it.
671
00:39:54,755 --> 00:39:55,875
What is this?
672
00:40:01,401 --> 00:40:03,163
Why are we here?
673
00:40:05,405 --> 00:40:07,096
I called your son.
674
00:40:08,128 --> 00:40:10,369
Said how you never stopped
keeping the faith
675
00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:12,732
the entire time I've known you.
676
00:40:12,733 --> 00:40:14,854
Told him what you did for them,
677
00:40:14,855 --> 00:40:17,456
how you'd take all
the beatings there are.
678
00:40:17,457 --> 00:40:19,098
How you never hated,
679
00:40:19,099 --> 00:40:20,821
no matter how hurt you were.
680
00:40:23,864 --> 00:40:24,864
D...
681
00:40:24,865 --> 00:40:26,699
They get it now.
682
00:40:27,147 --> 00:40:29,389
They're up there waiting.
683
00:40:31,311 --> 00:40:33,553
They want to talk.
684
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:20,801
Good call.
685
00:41:25,285 --> 00:41:27,051
All right.
686
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:32,051
Let's just get it over with then.
687
00:41:32,052 --> 00:41:33,613
Go ahead.
688
00:41:33,614 --> 00:41:35,375
Here's a fucked-up thing.
689
00:41:38,098 --> 00:41:41,566
When I needed you, you were gone.
690
00:41:42,776 --> 00:41:44,944
When I told you what was happening,
691
00:41:45,486 --> 00:41:47,707
you heard enough to know.
692
00:41:48,197 --> 00:41:50,199
I didn't get it, though.
693
00:41:51,367 --> 00:41:54,674
I kept thinking that you left
because you didn't understand.
694
00:41:54,675 --> 00:41:58,878
That if I could just be
clearer, explain better,
695
00:41:59,459 --> 00:42:01,241
that you'd finally step up.
696
00:42:04,525 --> 00:42:08,208
It took me years to see that
you just didn't give a fuck.
697
00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:14,574
And now, when what I really need
is for you to be gone,
698
00:42:14,575 --> 00:42:16,434
here you are.
699
00:42:17,226 --> 00:42:20,139
With your money, your bought-off judges,
700
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:22,301
your Pis hunting me down.
701
00:42:22,302 --> 00:42:25,585
With all the shit that got us here...
702
00:42:25,586 --> 00:42:27,508
on you.
703
00:42:30,110 --> 00:42:32,552
So here's my offer.
704
00:42:32,553 --> 00:42:36,556
Never try to find
or interfere with me again.
705
00:42:36,557 --> 00:42:38,623
In this life or any other,
706
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,001
by way of covering all bets.
707
00:42:42,763 --> 00:42:44,964
As long as you can do that,
708
00:42:45,713 --> 00:42:47,507
I can even thank you.
709
00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:53,092
You made me who I am,
710
00:42:53,093 --> 00:42:54,615
and I'm okay with it.
711
00:42:58,298 --> 00:43:00,395
How about you?
712
00:43:01,562 --> 00:43:03,142
Are you okay with it?
713
00:43:15,435 --> 00:43:16,876
You know what?
714
00:43:16,877 --> 00:43:18,918
I don't give a fuck if you are or not.
715
00:43:18,919 --> 00:43:20,840
I just need to know if we're done.
716
00:43:20,841 --> 00:43:22,250
For good.
717
00:43:22,723 --> 00:43:24,003
Last time we speak.
718
00:43:24,004 --> 00:43:25,845
Last time we anything.
719
00:43:25,846 --> 00:43:27,087
Ever.
720
00:43:29,850 --> 00:43:31,175
Yes.
721
00:43:34,094 --> 00:43:35,638
Awesome.
722
00:44:15,055 --> 00:44:16,255
Frank?
723
00:44:16,256 --> 00:44:17,817
Hey, sorry so late.
724
00:44:17,818 --> 00:44:19,659
Oh, forget it. What's up?
725
00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:21,460
Ryan Winter.
726
00:44:21,461 --> 00:44:24,223
Yeah. What about him?
727
00:44:24,224 --> 00:44:25,785
Well, I don't have
any details yet, just...
728
00:44:25,786 --> 00:44:27,266
he called the office.
729
00:44:27,267 --> 00:44:29,669
He was asking for somebody
to come out to his house.
730
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:31,110
And it probably should be my boss,
731
00:44:31,111 --> 00:44:32,672
but my boss is in Tahoe.
732
00:44:32,673 --> 00:44:34,113
Come out to his house? For what?
733
00:44:34,114 --> 00:44:36,275
He just said that he needed
to talk to somebody.
734
00:44:36,276 --> 00:44:38,451
About the things that he's done.
735
00:44:38,919 --> 00:44:40,159
Now, obviously, I said that I'd go.
736
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,881
I'm rolling out there now.
737
00:44:41,882 --> 00:44:43,843
I thought I'd give you the heads
up in case you wanted to come.
738
00:44:43,844 --> 00:44:46,165
- You fucking serious?
- Well, nothing's official,
739
00:44:46,166 --> 00:44:49,248
but if this is what it
sounds like it could be...
740
00:44:49,249 --> 00:44:50,690
you deserve to be there, man.
741
00:44:50,691 --> 00:44:52,411
I mean, you, of all people.
742
00:44:52,412 --> 00:44:54,333
You're the best, Frank. I'm on my way.
743
00:46:21,622 --> 00:46:22,822
Detective.
744
00:46:32,432 --> 00:46:34,834
Where's Frank?
745
00:46:45,325 --> 00:46:48,889
I said, where the fuck is Frank?!
746
00:46:50,771 --> 00:46:53,292
He's right there.
747
00:46:53,293 --> 00:46:55,215
Frank...
748
00:48:07,722 --> 00:48:14,546
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